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UPDATE - 15-09-2022 | ||||||||
First of all, let me say thank you for the amazing website you have
created- it really is superb. I first came across it a few years ago and
often dip into it, when I want to re-kindle the wonderful memories I
have of my time at ASWE. The place where I started what was to be a 30
year career in the Ministry Of Defence.
The Director at the time, the late Ken Slater, used to sprint up the
staircase to his office on the second floor. All the corridors with the
offices of the various departments; the plush meeting rooms. The
canteen, which was set apart from the main building, was an incredible
building- amongst other things it was also used to host the twice a year
blood donations.
Rumours always abounded of a secret world, which existed underneath
ASWE- very James Bond esq indeed!! Someone once told me that they were
driving at night, across the top of the hill, and saw the ground open up
inside the fence perimeter and cars disappearing down it!!!!! I think he
had probably had one too many!!!!
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UPDATE - 15-02-2014 | ||||||||
My attention has been brought to your website by my son Tim who has been a fan of yours for a long time.
I worked at ASWE or it's extensions for the whole of my working life. I
started as a Laboratory Assistant at ASE Nutbourne in 1942, was
transferred to Eastney Fort East then two years later to ASRE Portsdown
where I stayed until I retired in 1957 as a Senior Scientific Officer. A committee was set up by the Admiralty in 1944 to plan the future Admiralty Weapons Establishment (AWE) and the concept was published in October of that year. When and where would have to be decided before the plan was put into practice at the end of the war. Virtually the whole of Portsdown hill was War Department property and it was an obvious advantage for testing radar systems. Electricity and water was already available at Fort Southwick having been laid on from Wymering but these utilities would have to be upgraded to meet the expected demand. It must be remembered that ASWE did not just consist of the Main building dominating the skyline but that there were workshops, canteen, several laboratory blocks and other buildings. These required a large flat area which the crest of the hill did not have. Consequently the first priority was to push the earth north and south. But because this would cover the existing hill road a new road would have to be built further south. This groundwork was completed in 1946 ready for the first building to be erected. The footings for the Workshops Block were dug by hand by German prisoners of war awaiting repatriation who were rewarded with a small amount of pocket money for their efforts Over the next two years buildings were slowly built, speed of progress restricted by the availability of materials and fuel shortages following the recent war. In the summer of 1948, ASE appointed an Officer-in-Charge at Portsdown to oversee the site and he took up residence in an old road/rail container in the middle of a group of contractor's huts. The date of completion (except for the Main Block) and, therefore, occupation by staff was fixed for Friday, 3rd of September, 1948 and so the establishment was officially opened by the Controller of the Navy, vice Admiral DG Daniel, RN. During excavations on the north east side of the establishment a human skull was unearthed which, as was required, reported to the local authority. The Portsmouth Museum curator inspected the site and concluded that the burial was an isolated case and work was resumed. The skull was nicknamed Percy by the contractors and kept on a shelf in their site hut. The Main building, or Admin block as I knew it, was yet to be built and this started in February 1953 when the then Commander-in-Chief, Portsmouth, Admiral Sir John Edelston RN cut the first sod. It took over two years to construct and was ready for occupation in April 1955. Not recorded elsewhere is the history of ASWE Portsdown West which existed a mile to the west of the main establishment and I could tell that story at a later date.
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UPDATE - 01-01-2014 | ||||||||
Well what can I say I came across your site on Facebook and spent most of Sunday morning reading and searching your site. I joined ASWE in September 1968 as a craft apprentice and worked there until 1978 when I joined Hampshire Fire Brigade after the national strike. I thought I could offer some insight to some of the comments and add some more. As an apprentice we were issued a toolbox known as a pussers [naval] tool box which was equipped with various tools from a 1 inch micrometer to hammers etc and 10 tool checks which were exchanged for special tools from the tool store. As a 16 year old it was amusing to us apprentices to have tools electro engraved with ARSE on them which as another has said didn't last long. Our first year we were under the instruction of Don Foot and our workshop was down the pit which was on the North side of the main workshop car park, above us was a plating shop paint shop and sandblasting shop and the sheetmetal shop which later became the apprentice training school when the new sheet metal shop was built behind the main workshop. ASWE also inherited the name HMS Mercury II and I can remember it being used only by a few of the old tiffies [naval artificer]. In our first year it all being new to us we found that there was an underground shooting range and if memory serves me well it was in the stores and test building east of the main block and spent many times there during the lunch hour (3/4 hour actually). As young lads we soon explored the site and found all these young ladies our age in the typing pool which was on the ground floor east side of the main building and made a nuisance of ourselves more than once around Christmas etc. You might say this was all during the cold war and as such we were subject to lectures etc about reds under the bed and to watch out for loose women This was all in what was the lecture room come cinema in the N.E. ground floor corner of the main building. In our 2nd year we spent three months in the electrical section with our instructor Phil Hammond and 3 months in the drawing office when we lost 2 of our intake one with double pneumonia Mac and Paul who for reasons known to us left for pastures new. Working in the apprentice drawing office meant our work-times changed and we as apprentices spent our lunch times chatting up the typists and the tracers. After those stints we ended up behind what was known as the Iron curtain. In our first 2 years we were all together and schooled everyday by our instructors. Come our 3rd and 4th year we ended up working with individual instructors in the main workshop in what was known as modular training and we would be under their tuition and guidance and one of the best instructors I ever had was a guy called Maury Leather. At one time in his life he had been goal keeper for Pompey and Yeovil Town and as such and as we were now older we used to play footie lunch times out the back on the north side of the apprentice school. Maury sure could kick a ball and if he went in to tackle you he always came out on top. During those 3rd and 4th years we as apprentices decided that we needed to let of steam after work and we ran discos. Les Wallin was our DJ at the 'Blue Lagoon', Hilsea every 6 weeks and I can still remember The Moody Blues Knights In White Satin blaring away from the bus-stops opposite the Southdown Bus Depot. The money we made we spent on a Christmas party in he canteen for all the children who were in children's homes from Havant, Hayling Island, Gosport and of course Portsmouth. We used busses to get them there and entertained them, feed them and sent them back home with a Christmas present from Father Christmas. After our 4th year we passed-out and those of us that made the grade were offered a job as a Lab mechanic and I served their till 1978 when I left and joined Hampshire Fire Brigade, this came about that during the Fire Service national strike. I and other staff members from the workshop became volunteer fireman under the guidance of a writer Bill Fells who was an ex-Portsmouth fireman. I had caught the bug and applied for a job with them after the strike and joined in the September. I went back a few times as a fireman and to receive an award for work we had done which had been patented by the Admiralty. Then in 1989 I was retired from HFB because of injuries on the job and being out of work found myself moving to the USA where I now run my own company all with the knowledge that I learnt as an ASWE apprentice
P.S. On the Paulsgrove
page there is a letter, page 2, 3rd letter from a Pamela Clark who
lived in Deerhurst Crescent where I grew up and her brother taught me to
ride a 2 wheel bike. - January 2014 |
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NEW - 15-04-2012 | ||||||||
I was an electrical fitter and turner apprentice there at ASWE from 1978 to 1982 and have a few photos on my Facebook site, medical first aid course on the main stairs, Prince Charles who came to thank us for our efforts during the Falklands crisis, and one of my mentor: Professor Herbert French from Funtington. Lovely time that was... I am now an Engineering Manager and electronic design engineer for a fire and security company, have worked with ROV's ,satellite, medical equipment and radio, all made possible by my knowledge from my time there. I also have photos from the Havant museum, which recently did a memorial display to the 700 apprentices who trained there, guided by Phil Hammond ,ex trainer, now at Staunton community school in West Leigh. Bill Butterfield, Ken Hedger - trainers in machining, Rick Sharp, Peter Goddard, Bob Button - electronic trainers.... Oh there are some memories all right....
Andy Little - April 2012 |
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NEW - 30-10-2011 | ||||||||
At the age of ten I watched ASWE being built. I lived in Boston Road Wymering and Portsdown Hill was my playground. In 1946 German POWs from the prison camp situated in Creech Walk on the road between Southwick and Denmead were brought daily to the ASWE site, and they provided a lot of the labour for the initial ground works. My friends and I spent many an hour wandering the site (no real security then) conversing with them and sharing some of their meals (tinned sardines and bread for example) much to the consternation of my mother who thought they would poison us (totally unfounded of course). Many of them expressed to us the desire to remain in England. I believe in fact that many of them did. I think that ASWE opened well before 1952 as mentioned in your summary introduction, probably in the late 1940s when the wartime naval signal establishment was moved from Haslemere . Initially the establishment was known as the Admiralty Radar and Signals Establishment (A.R.S.E) and this logo appeared on the local buses destination boards. It was however rapidly renamed as the Admiralty Signals and Radar Establishment (A.S.R.E ) for obvious reasons. In the days before universal car ownership there were always long convoys of buses waiting outside the main gate to take people home. If I remember correctly, the green buses (Southdown) had the routes to Fareham and over the back of Portsdown Hill, while the red buses (Portsmouth Corporation) had the routes into the city. Moving on to 1966. On leaving the Royal Navy I joined the then re-named ASWE as a Technical Author and wrote and managed the production of a number of Technical manuals in support of ships' weapons systems. During this time I met many interesting people and worked at the forefront of developing technology. I must have walked through that impressive front entrance and ascended the imposing stairway many thousands of times. I left ASWE in 1987 to continue in a similar capacity in HMS DRYAD and then HMS COLLINGWOOD. Finally retiring from MOD service in 1996.
Moving on again to 2011. I drove past the ASWE site in October and I see
that all that now remains of the Main Building is a large heap of rubble.
So in my lifetime I have witnessed the construction and now the final
destruction of that once impressive building. |
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NEW - 30-10-2011 | ||||||||
I pop in to your site quite often and never felt like commenting until now. Looking up the hill from my bedroom window it saddens to see the Portsdown Main building West Wing GONE, The centre block is a shell, This just leaves the Right Wing to disappear for good.
We are so lucky to have your site to remember what will be missing from
our skyline. Keep the photos coming as this is all we will have left of my
childhood play area (On the hill, over the hill and in and around the
tunnels which are blocked now) great times for us kids. Great site Bob
keep it up. |
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A friend and I are both 'urban explorers' and even though we weren't dressed for occasion we happened past ASWE this afternoon and wondered what it looked like inside. We walked through the gate just three hours ago, politely told the men on the desk what our intentions were (of course innocent, as an exploratory interest only) and they allowed us in. I was blown away.
My father, Colin Pykett, was Chief Scientist at ASWE for several years,
prior to that he worked at Portland. I phoned him up when we were inside
and he guided me to where his office is/was. It was all very surreal as
the place has been gutted, and there was a fire in the theatre last week.
There are still old Christmas decorations hanging up in one of the
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I wondered if anyone knew my father who worked at ASWE, probably between
1960-1970. His name was Raymond Henry Cook. He died in 1971 on holiday in
Cornwall. He was born in 1919. As a young child I can remember clearly
going to a Christmas party in the art deco building.
If anyone has any information or access to staff information it would be
gratefully received. Many thanks. |
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Hi, my father Charles Holbourn used to work at ASWE in the 1960s, something to do with guided weapons. He was there for quite a few years and before that he was at Portland, Dorset. I just wandered if any one might have worked with him?
Paula Ellinor - February 2009 |
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I came across your site when I Googled ASWE, as I was an apprentice there from 1976 to 1980. It is so sad to see this site with its buildings all going to rack and ruin. A few years ago I went to a machinery auction there. I was so looking forward to going to see where I once trained, but I was in for one hell of a shock. To see what was once a thriving 'community' was obviously now in terminal decline. I know its a rapidly changing world, and maybe the site really is no longer required by the MoD, but it still seems so sad if not criminal to let it all go to rack and ruin. I have lived in this area since 1964. From 1964 to 1978 I lived in Beverley Grove, just east of Farlington Redoubt.
I also became fascinated with tunnels. This fascination started when the
admiralty moved out of
Fort
Purbrook and the whole place was left open for anyone to explore! I
was also very interested in the rumours that there might be tunnels that
either extend out from the forts or possibly even link the forts together.
I distinctly remember the two large underground rooms at the bottom of the
main spiral staircase, and the narrow walkway that extended around these
two rooms. I also distinctly remember searching for hidden tunnel
entrances, that may lead away from the fort, but other than a narrow
passage into the chalk, which extended approx only a few yards and then
narrowed to a dead end, nothing was ever found.
I also wonder if any evidence of tunnels were discovered when the cutting
was dug/ surely the road level is plenty deep enough for a tunnel in the
Redoubt direction? |
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I was fascinated by your website and will try to add my bit as I am revisiting my childhood more than 50 years later by staying in Pompey , with my wife Ingrid. I was born in 1942 in Birmingham but turned up in Pompey in 1943 with Mum & Dad living at 11, Rosebery Avenue, Cosham . Dad was Herbert David Gilroy - he had joined the newly formed MOD Police Service. By 1952 I had 2 more brothers and we all moved to the two Police Residences up on the Hill when Dad was promoted to Inspector. I have photos of us outside our home. The site was then called ASRE -Admiralty Signal and Radar Establishment. Dad, as Senior Police Officer, was always meeting the top people there - the Chief Scientist - when transistors were in their infancy. It was a "technical place ".
Dad was "security " so not much I will reveal in this email - but I do
remember him, firearms and all, going out in the night on an "inspection". David Gilroy - May 2008 |
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